Posted on November 20th, 2010, 10:33am by Sandy Brown
well i am happy to see aguy like me who also loves the place so much that u wudn't ask for a better place.
All
we cud do is publish more threads inviting girls to a specific place on
specific days.. like choose the first weekend of every month may be
saturday and all guys show up on time.
Before i get some response
saying that " we were the only guys there " , iknow that might happen,
but one day atleast some girls show up.. and u wull know .. may be
introduce colour codes.. and be decent in all the threads.. make the
places happening..
Choose the same place all the time , and that
will b a place for hooking up soon, i guess Eat street is picking up in
terms of hooking up.. top dating sites
Posted on November 13th, 2010, 8:36pm by Adam Stevens
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I am a fan of HMB Romance and have tried to read and understand the way the stories develop and build from the first chapter.But my main fault is that in my submission this time,I am not convinced about the dialogue that I have written.Will the dialogue be a significant black mark against my submission?Or do the editors look for different things that might override the weak dialogue?
I have also been keeping a watch on the NV Competition and like many of the entries.Can I vote,even though I belong to Asia and not any of the countries listed in the T&C s?Though voting and commenting are not an essential condition of enjoying the reads.
Posted on August 3rd, 2010, 9:18pm by Richard Wahd
I just read Brazilian Boss, Virgin Housekeeper by Maggie Cox and all I can say is WOW. I'm hooked. My skin tightened as I turned that last page and when Eduardo threatened Marianne with a spanking my mouth just dropped open and I was left speechless.
Posted on December 18th, 2009, 3:04pm by Gemma Jackson
Just nipped to your page. Don't know how to access a 'login'. In the pub I talk about joining the NWS you're a member of this group aren't you. How has that worked for you?
I can't wait to join I have a completed Ms for superromance that I'd like to get their opinion on. I've lost faith in myself. I don't know what the heck I'm doing wrong.
I've been getting it's great BUT for over twenty years and I never seem to understand the BUT. I'm hoping someone can hit me over the head and make me see the light.
My own Keeper shelve is stacked with SIlhouette Special Editions. I read and enjoy MBM but don't ever keep them to read again. They are like chocolates to me, you eat and forget reaching instantly for another. I love books with depth and multiple characters I can read again and again.
I don't know why I went off blittering. I'm frustrated I guess.
I really just wanted to welcome Anuska. Great name by the way. Welcome to the home of the terminally confused. Its a great place to hang out.
Posted on December 17th, 2009, 11:44am by Gemma Jackson
Wouldn't it be wonderful to start the year on a positive note from a publisher. I wish you the best. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
All we can do is keep trying. You're in the sunshine right now, right? Could you send some of the sunshine over here please?
Have to admit the sky at night is wonderful at the moment. We've had amazing meteor showers, and I live far enough north to see the Aurora Borealis (sp?) Keep the faith. I believe you can do it, hopefully we all can.
Posted on December 16th, 2009, 7:25am by Romy Sommer
I'm hoping for a copy of the RNA's anthology 'Loves me, Loves me not'. And a sale to an ebook publisher I won't name who promised me feeedback on my revisions before the end of the year.
Posted on December 13th, 2009, 10:08am by Liz Fielding
It's been a while since anyone has posted here. I've just wrapped up my latest book and looking forward to Christmas -- although I already have my present, a lovely pink Sony eReader!
Posted on October 19th, 2009, 5:09pm by Donna Alward
I think the shift in my thinking came from realizing that while my heroes weren't necessarily what we'd consider "alphas" they have alpha characteristics in varied proportions.
If you look at Twilight, you can see that Edward is the true alpha. He's the leader. Heck, even Carlisle defers to Edward. But then there's Jacob. Jacob doesn't WANT to be the alpha. And yet - he's got certain characteristics of an alpha. He's strong, competent and good at what he does. He's also a protector, although we don't fully understand it until Breaking Dawn.
But he's not Edward.
When it comes down to it, your heroes really simply need to be proactive. How you execute that for each line is dependent on tone and your own personal voice.
Donna
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011 www.donnaalward.com
Crikey - you apologised for a delay in getting back to me of a few days - and then I went AWOL for a few weeks! Life got in the way more than ordinarily. It wasn't much fun either - thank heaven for fiction.
Anyway, thank you so much for your trouble and all the info.
Part of my trouble is that I've read so much stuff in so many different places I've confused myself.
I know that somewhere I read about heros being other than alpha - being beta and gamma as well which is why I thought maybe it was a different one for the Romance line.
Posted on September 18th, 2009, 10:23am by Gemma Jackson
Donna what a mine of fabulous information. Thank you, only one further question. How on earth do you print the screen. I keep trying and I'm getting the margins beautifully but no text. Anyone know how I can print this essential information to hang on my wall and study?
Posted on September 15th, 2009, 3:58pm by Donna Alward
I found this while scrolling through Kate's blog as well. there is a reason I visit her blog every day. :-)
I also included Modern Heat as in some ways it features characteristics of both.
I hope this helps!
Mills & Boon Romance® Tower of Strength: he has a steely core, is not easily manipulated and uncompromising about the things that matter
Aspirational: the guy with whom women aspire to spend the rest of their lives; definitely Mr Right
Code of Honour: he has a strong sense of right and wrong, is reasonable and fair
Sense of Humour: he can laugh at himself and life; he’s often understated and modest in manner
Status: Definitely successful, can be wealthy or just comfortably off; perhaps a specialist in his field
Mills & Boon Modern Romance® Commanding: he’s always in control and calling the shots – except when the heroine finally tames him…
Demanding: he’s come a long way since his emotionally or financially impoverished childhood; he wants it done, and he wants it done now!
Arrogant: he believes in himself and the reach of his influence, totally – until the battle with his feelings for the heroine begins…
Passionate: sensual and sexy, he uses his charm and power to get what he wants, though his need for the heroine may ultimately prove stronger
Status: impossibly wealthy, probably self-made; often has celebrity status in the media. The ruler of all he surveys, be it a company or a country
Mills & Boon Modern Heat® Young: he’s aged between 25 and 35 and has yet to settle down
Confident: he knows what he wants and has a good idea of how he’ll get it; he knows he’s attractive and relishes challenges – he might have a extreme hobby
Easy-going: he plays as hard as he works, knowing how and when to have a good time. He doesn’t sweat the small stuff…
Accessible: he’s very approachable, but his physical presence and his confidence and charm make him stand out from the crowd
Status: he hails from all walks of life and can have any level of success and wealth
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011 www.donnaalward.com
Posted on September 15th, 2009, 3:53pm by Donna Alward
I read my last post over and it seems I hardly said anything at all! It's a hard thing to express.
Mills and Boon only publish alphas, did you know that? It really goes to show that not all alphas are cut from the same cloth. But there are characteristics that are common and it is how that character is drawn, or written on the page that determines which line the tone etc. fits.
Here's what I wrote about Romance alphas on Kate's blog:
asked for a quote - she wrote me an essay. She said I could cut it if I wanted to.
But I didn't want to. I think she make a lot of great points - the sort of points I was hoping would come up. As Liz Fielding said yesterday, the Romance line can be misunderstood and its heroes seen as too 'soft' to be interesting.
Liz added: "Like Modern/Presents, we tend to be a much misunderstood series. Romance with "training wheels" is one description I particularly loath. I beg, very politely -- I'm a Romance author :) -- to differ. The Alpha male makes the perfect Romance hero. And the perfect Romance heroine will match him for courage, honour and passion every step of the way. "
And there are plenty of 'Romance' characteristics in the true alpha hero. But they are perhaps the ones that don't get so much publicity. And again perhaps the definitions of alpha that some readers/writers are working from are too narrow. These are some points that todays Romance writer deals with - over to you Donna
“My” Alphas….
When Kate asked me if I’d be interested in talking about alpha heroes on her blog I was momentarily stunned. Me? Alphas? But the moment passed quickly.
If you had asked me two years ago when I sold to Harlequin Romance if I could write an alpha hero, I would have laughed. I would have said, “I don’t do alphas.” You see, I was labouring under the common misapprehension that alpha = hard, brutish man. And my guys just aren’t that way.
Well thank goodness I’ve been educated. Or have a deeper understanding. Because it is not brutish, nasty behaviour that determines an alpha.
Of course there are shades of alphas, and different styles and tones of writing. My alphas will be nothing like Kate’s, and Kate’s will be different from Anne McAllister’s, and Anne’s will be different from Michelle Styles…you see where I’m going?
Kate said, in her e-mail, that my Jonas (The Soldier’s Homecoming) and Nate (Falling for Mr. Dark and Dangerous) were true alphas. After handing in 9 books for the Romance line and number 10 in the wings, I can see a few more coming your way as well. Dante Nicoletti, for example, and Noah Laramie for another.
What makes an alpha?
An alpha is a leader. He doesn’t wait for things to happen, he MAKES THINGS HAPPEN. Even if he makes a bad decision – he’ll be committed to it 100%. In Dark and Dangerous, Nate had to lie to the heroine. He hates dishonesty, but he does it because it is for her own protection….
Which brings us to another characteristic – an alpha is a protector. He can be as charming as the day is long, drive too fast, be the ultimate playboy – but when it comes to what is his, he will fight to the death to protect it. His heroine might fear the passion flaring between them, but she will never have to fear being hurt from the outside.
Alpha heroes are also aspirational. They are always looking forward to the next achievement or opportunity. They are successful because they are driven. It is not enough to rest on their laurels. And this doesn’t have to be financial gain either. It could be a cause they are dedicated to, or in the case of my Noah, he puts his energy into his recovery and rehabilitation. But they are forward thinkers. They are proactive.
Alphas might have that little bit of an edge that makes them seem sometimes hard or ruthless, but that is because they make decisions and stick to them. Alphas live life on their own terms. It makes them exciting, powerful personalities. One of the heroes I have thought a lot about lately is Darcy. When he says that his good opinion, once lost, is gone forever, that sounds cold and hard. But let’s face it – it’s also a challenge. Don’t we all love a man who’s a challenge – at least in our fiction? J And peeling back those layers to discover the heart of the man beneath is exciting. Alphas don’t like to show their vulnerabilities, which is why when they finally do reveal their “scars” to the heroine, it has such an impact. Those vulnerabilities might simply be their feelings for the heroine, or they can be something more entirely. In the last book I handed in, there is a scene where my hero is literally laid bare before the heroine. It is about as low as he can go. And her reaction changes everything.
My Romance heroes might be different from what many call “The Presents Hero”, but they’re incredibly fun to write…and those that have the greatest alpha characteristics are also the heroes I fall in love with the most!
My next book is Hired: The Italian’s Bride (June 09). Luca is definitely a playboy type – but he is also an achiever. Is he an alpha? Yes. Is he ruthless? Never. He is incredibly gentle, but he is the strong protector that Mari needs. It is that strength combined with his gentleness that makes it possible for Mari to start living again.
You can check out all the posts here. I think there are something like twenty-two!
Donna
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011 www.donnaalward.com
Posted on September 15th, 2009, 3:49pm by Donna Alward
Rosie, my apologies for taking so long to get back to you.
In asking how Modern heroes differ from Romance heroes, you are *almost* asking how Modern is different from Romance. Maybe that's because in both lines character is key.
Some of the differences are in intensity. Both Romance and Modern *are* intense but of a different nature.
Modern tends to be characterized (and populated) with tycoons, billionaires, and aristocracy. Some of it is entitled wealth and often it is a poor boy made good and now incredibly wealthy and powerful.
The power of the hero - both in the practical business world and in personality - is more subtle in Romance, or at least can be. You might still have a millionaire, a tycoon, a self-made man, but they are often of a different sort. There's a lot more room for entrepreneurs rather than CEOs. If you read a cross section from each line, you'll see what I mean.
I also am going to post again in a moment as Kate Walker held an alpha hero event on her blog and I am going to post my bit that I did etc. Back in 2 secs!
Donna
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011 www.donnaalward.com
Posted on September 7th, 2009, 1:00pm by Donna Alward
Jennie Adams did a hero with cancer (though he was recovering) in her book To Love and To Cherish.
Donna
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011 www.donnaalward.com
Posted on September 5th, 2009, 10:13am by Gemma Jackson
I've just discovered this thread. It suddenly popped up on my screen never having appeared before. I am thrilled. Am I too late to jump in with the serious illness thing? Only I have read literally thousands of M&B and know there have been many with serious illness involved. They tear at your heart strings and give you a good cry before everything in the world goes rosy again. Fabulous M&B. As far as titles is concerned, DUH.
Hope this thread doesn't disappear into the ether again.
Posted on August 12th, 2009, 9:13am by Penny Robins
Thanks Liz for your comments. It is upbeat and it definately has a happy ending but the breast cancer although does have some focus is not the foundation of the story, it also highlights past conflict that they have swept under the carpet for several years. Thanks again...I'm off to write some more.
Posted on August 11th, 2009, 6:16pm by Liz Fielding
Penny, I don't see why that wouldn't fly with Romance. It's a reality that many women live through and the positive message of being loved through the worst that can happen to you is a very powerful one.
If you're burning to write it I'd say go ahead -- there are lots of opportunities for strong internal conflict with both H and h, but be careful about using it as a "message", remember to keep the ending upbeat and positive. And most of all remember that it's a romance. Good luck!
Posted on August 10th, 2009, 7:30pm by Penny Robins
Hi Ladies!
I'm hoping to target the Romance line with my current WIP but am after some advice. My Heroine has breast cancer and I'm not sure if it's the 'done' thing. I've scoured my bookshelves to find a romance with a serious illness and can't find one (hmm lighbulb moment - maybe that's answering my question) Maybe she just needs to have an accident but it has to be serious enough for the hero to fly half way around the world to her. Is an editor going to look at it with a serious illness or do I need to rethink?
I do think it's important for all writers not to get bogged down in one mindset. It's especially important when you're still feeling your writing feet. Just the act of writing something different will give you new perspective, new ideas, bring you back to the first love refreshed and excited.
I do think it's important for all writers not to get bogged down in one mindset. It's especially important when you're still feeling your writing feet. Just the act of writing something different will give you new perspective, new ideas, bring you back to the first love refreshed and excited.
but wonder if because I don’t feel I’m a ‘natural’ Modern, I might be
able to write with a bit more dash & less inhibitions.
I'm targetting Romance, but still very tempted to enter the competition. I don't have a Modern voice either but I'm hoping that one will appear once I start writing!
One of my writer friends who has been targetting Romance is entering, Chris. She was originally aiming at Presents/Modern, but had feedback from the Instant Seduction comp suggesting her voice fitted Romance better.
As she's presently waiting to hear back on a requested Full that's been with Romance for about 6 months, she's going to try a change of pace again for the new contest.
I waver back and forth, not sure if my voice fits Romance or Modern Heat best! My bookshelf is an equal mix of pink and blue.
I'm certainly giving the comp a try. I entered Instant Seduction last year, but not Feel the Heat, just had too much else going on at the time and writing had to take a back seat.
This year is different, and making time for writing has been a key priority!
I was going to be "good" and finish editing the very messy first draft of my last story, but all the talk about the comp has a new story idea bubbling up. I think I'm going to stop resisting this particular temptation and start work on this new one. I know there are issues with the conflict in the current story, so it may be all the better to leave it sit for a while and come back to it.
Just wondering if any would-be ‘pink’ (Romance) writers like me are thinking of entering the November Modern competition for the heck of it?
Because I’m targeting Romance, I’m horribly perfectionist over my partial – but wonder if because I don’t feel I’m a ‘natural’ Modern, I might be able to write with a bit more dash & less inhibitions.
Heck, the first time I saw my name listed under the title of a personal essay published in a magazine I was thrilled. LOL, I don't think it would matter to me if my offspring published something in a totally different genre--it is still something to be thrilled about. Congrats to your son.
Writing a place I used to live is lovely. I walk around the streets in my head, feel the grass, "see" it.
My "village" of Upper Haughton, is a place I know really well and writing about it just takes me back to the lovely times I had there, watching the cricket, having a glass of something cheering in the village pub afterwards, with my family and then with the dh and finally taking my new born for walk around it in his pram. (His first book is being published this year!)
Sorry to have been so long to respond. Troubles with my connection and a very busy week.
You'll find loads of stuff about writing for Romance on the authors' individual websites -- I've got one about "beginnings" but if you look around you'll find tons of stuff. There are also some articles on the Harlequin Romance Authors Blog at http://harlequinromanceauthors.blogspot.com -- plus links to the all the authors.
If you have any specific questions, I'm sure you'll get plenty of help here, too.
I have been a fan of romance as long as i remember. I love reading them and now i am planning to write one. So i need your help. What are the basic things one should keep in mind while writing romance and also if submissions are possible online? please give tips.
Nancy, FWIW, I think the better you know a place, the harder it is to write about it. I've led quite a nomadic existence, and find that anywhere between 5 - 10 years is required before I can really get to grips creatively with a place where I've lived. Before that, things feel muddled up with the details of my real life there.
With holiday spots you've visited, maybe even several times, it's much easier to approach a place in a 'new slate' way and make it convincing, though of course it's harder then to give the reader a powerful and authentic sense of that setting.
This one's set in the Kimberley region, Nancy - deep, isolated Outback, in the Wet season too. I'm having fun with it, all right. Talk about enforced intimacy - with a baby in a storm...
Have a good night, all
Melissa
Melissa James, Harlequin Romance
THE REBEL KING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, April 2009
HIS PRINCESS IN THE MAKING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, June 2009
HIS HOUSEKEEPER BRIDE, October 2009
Interesting point. Does writing about a place you used to live make you homesick, or do you write about it because you miss it? Whether it is the next book, or several books away, I'm psyched. It gives this woman a chance to visit a place I've never been.
Thanks for the warm welcome, Nancy! Um - for you the Outback book is 2 books ahead - next one is set in Sydney and, like Princess, begins with the hardest point in the hero's life. The book after that is the Outback book, and I'm so glad to be back in my milieu - I adore the Outback and really miss it now I live in Europe. I'll probably do more books set around the world, but I'd like to write about home for a while. Write out the homesickness? Or hey, maybe that's why I am homesick! I'm writing about it...
Melissa
Melissa James, Harlequin Romance
THE REBEL KING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, April 2009
HIS PRINCESS IN THE MAKING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, June 2009
HIS HOUSEKEEPER BRIDE, October 2009
Thanks so much to Gemma and Nancy for their lovely reviews on my rebel Charlie. So glad you liked the book!
Melissa
Melissa James, Harlequin Romance
THE REBEL KING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, April 2009
HIS PRINCESS IN THE MAKING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, June 2009
HIS HOUSEKEEPER BRIDE, October 2009
Hi, I've finally found my way here thanks to Nancy. I look forward to meeting you all and chatting now and then - more then than now, unfortunately, as I have a book due in 4 weeks - the first of an exciting new Outback series. More details soon!
Melissa
Melissa James, Harlequin Romance
THE REBEL KING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, April 2009
HIS PRINCESS IN THE MAKING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, June 2009
HIS HOUSEKEEPER BRIDE, October 2009
I finally got around to reading grace's story and have to say that I really enjoyed it :) Although it did make me want to eat cake for a few days which isn't great for the old diet hehe
well i am happy to see aguy
well i am happy to see aguy like me who also loves the place so much that u wudn't ask for a better place.
All
we cud do is publish more threads inviting girls to a specific place on
specific days.. like choose the first weekend of every month may be
saturday and all guys show up on time.
Before i get some response
saying that " we were the only guys there " , iknow that might happen,
but one day atleast some girls show up.. and u wull know .. may be
introduce colour codes.. and be decent in all the threads.. make the
places happening..
Choose the same place all the time , and that
will b a place for hooking up soon, i guess Eat street is picking up in
terms of hooking up.. top dating sites
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Hi Everyone,
I am a fan of HMB Romance and have tried to read and understand the way the stories develop and build from the first chapter.But my main fault is that in my submission this time,I am not convinced about the dialogue that I have written.Will the dialogue be a significant black mark against my submission?Or do the editors look for different things that might override the weak dialogue?
I have also been keeping a watch on the NV Competition and like many of the entries.Can I vote,even though I belong to Asia and not any of the countries listed in the T&C s?Though voting and commenting are not an essential condition of enjoying the reads.
Thank you.
Anusree
I'm new at this...
I just read Brazilian Boss, Virgin Housekeeper by Maggie Cox and all I can say is WOW. I'm hooked. My skin tightened as I turned that last page and when Eduardo threatened Marianne with a spanking my mouth just dropped open and I was left speechless.
DUH
Just realised that I posted this comment to the wrong site. Nurse, Nurse, I need my pills.
Hi Mulberry
Just nipped to your page. Don't know how to access a 'login'. In the pub I talk about joining the NWS you're a member of this group aren't you. How has that worked for you?
I can't wait to join I have a completed Ms for superromance that I'd like to get their opinion on. I've lost faith in myself. I don't know what the heck I'm doing wrong.
I've been getting it's great BUT for over twenty years and I never seem to understand the BUT. I'm hoping someone can hit me over the head and make me see the light.
My own Keeper shelve is stacked with SIlhouette Special Editions. I read and enjoy MBM but don't ever keep them to read again. They are like chocolates to me, you eat and forget reaching instantly for another. I love books with depth and multiple characters I can read again and again.
I don't know why I went off blittering. I'm frustrated I guess.
I really just wanted to welcome Anuska. Great name by the way. Welcome to the home of the terminally confused. Its a great place to hang out.
Northern Lights
Oh, wow, Gemma, I would love to see the Northern Lights!
Romy, hope you get that ebook feedback soon. And I haven't been on Subcare yet, but have you heard from the Presents comp yet?
Because we all deserve a happy ending!
http://waitingforthecall.wordpress.com/
http://sevensassysisters.com
Morning Romy
Wouldn't it be wonderful to start the year on a positive note from a publisher. I wish you the best. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
All we can do is keep trying. You're in the sunshine right now, right? Could you send some of the sunshine over here please?
Have to admit the sky at night is wonderful at the moment. We've had amazing meteor showers, and I live far enough north to see the Aurora Borealis (sp?) Keep the faith. I believe you can do it, hopefully we all can.
Christmas wishlist
I'm hoping for a copy of the RNA's anthology 'Loves me, Loves me not'. And a sale to an ebook publisher I won't name who promised me feeedback on my revisions before the end of the year.
http://romysommer.blogspot.com
http://saromancewriters.blogspot.com
Waving...
It's been a while since anyone has posted here. I've just wrapped up my latest book and looking forward to Christmas -- although I already have my present, a lovely pink Sony eReader!
What are you all hoping to find under the tree?
Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
over-thinking
Thank you, Donna!
I think I'm just going to have to do it. I might well be overthinking it...
I'd better stop dithering and get my competition entry in, too.
Betas and Gammas
I think the shift in my thinking came from realizing that while my heroes weren't necessarily what we'd consider "alphas" they have alpha characteristics in varied proportions.
If you look at Twilight, you can see that Edward is the true alpha. He's the leader. Heck, even Carlisle defers to Edward. But then there's Jacob. Jacob doesn't WANT to be the alpha. And yet - he's got certain characteristics of an alpha. He's strong, competent and good at what he does. He's also a protector, although we don't fully understand it until Breaking Dawn.
But he's not Edward.
When it comes down to it, your heroes really simply need to be proactive. How you execute that for each line is dependent on tone and your own personal voice.
Donna
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011
www.donnaalward.com
Donna
Crikey - you apologised for a delay in getting back to me of a few days - and then I went AWOL for a few weeks! Life got in the way more than ordinarily. It wasn't much fun either - thank heaven for fiction.
Anyway, thank you so much for your trouble and all the info.
Part of my trouble is that I've read so much stuff in so many different places I've confused myself.
I know that somewhere I read about heros being other than alpha - being beta and gamma as well which is why I thought maybe it was a different one for the Romance line.
Thanks again!
Blog
Barbara Hannay has a great blog about her new surrogate mother book, here. http://bit.ly/24OXiw
Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
Gemma: If you can't figure
Gemma:
If you can't figure it out--you can always do a copy and past to a word doc, save and print that.
Nancy aka sheandeen
Thank you.
Donna what a mine of fabulous information. Thank you, only one further question. How on earth do you print the screen. I keep trying and I'm getting the margins beautifully but no text. Anyone know how I can print this essential information to hang on my wall and study?
Thanks.
OOh and a gold mine
I found this while scrolling through Kate's blog as well. there is a reason I visit her blog every day. :-)
I also included Modern Heat as in some ways it features characteristics of both.
I hope this helps!
Mills & Boon Romance®
Tower of Strength: he has a steely core, is not easily manipulated and uncompromising about the things that matter
Aspirational: the guy with whom women aspire to spend the rest of their lives; definitely Mr Right
Code of Honour: he has a strong sense of right and wrong, is reasonable and fair
Sense of Humour: he can laugh at himself and life; he’s often understated and modest in manner
Status: Definitely successful, can be wealthy or just comfortably off; perhaps a specialist in his field
Mills & Boon Modern Romance®
Commanding: he’s always in control and calling the shots – except when the heroine finally tames him…
Demanding: he’s come a long way since his emotionally or financially impoverished childhood; he wants it done, and he wants it done now!
Arrogant: he believes in himself and the reach of his influence, totally – until the battle with his feelings for the heroine begins…
Passionate: sensual and sexy, he uses his charm and power to get what he wants, though his need for the heroine may ultimately prove stronger
Status: impossibly wealthy, probably self-made; often has celebrity status in the media. The ruler of all he surveys, be it a company or a country
Mills & Boon Modern Heat®
Young: he’s aged between 25 and 35 and has yet to settle down
Confident: he knows what he wants and has a good idea of how he’ll get it; he knows he’s attractive and relishes challenges – he might have a extreme hobby
Easy-going: he plays as hard as he works, knowing how and when to have a good time. He doesn’t sweat the small stuff…
Accessible: he’s very approachable, but his physical presence and his confidence and charm make him stand out from the crowd
Status: he hails from all walks of life and can have any level of success and wealth
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011
www.donnaalward.com
Alphas
I read my last post over and it seems I hardly said anything at all! It's a hard thing to express.
Mills and Boon only publish alphas, did you know that? It really goes to show that not all alphas are cut from the same cloth. But there are characteristics that are common and it is how that character is drawn, or written on the page that determines which line the tone etc. fits.
Here's what I wrote about Romance alphas on Kate's blog:
asked for a quote - she wrote me an essay. She said I could cut it if I wanted to.
But I didn't want to. I think she make a lot of great points - the sort of points I was hoping would come up. As Liz Fielding said yesterday, the Romance line can be misunderstood and its heroes seen as too 'soft' to be interesting.
Liz added: "Like Modern/Presents, we tend to be a much misunderstood series. Romance with "training wheels" is one description I particularly loath. I beg, very politely -- I'm a Romance author :) -- to differ. The Alpha male makes the perfect Romance hero. And the perfect Romance heroine will match him for courage, honour and passion every step of the way. "
And there are plenty of 'Romance' characteristics in the true alpha hero. But they are perhaps the ones that don't get so much publicity. And again perhaps the definitions of alpha that some readers/writers are working from are too narrow. These are some points that todays Romance writer deals with - over to you Donna
“My” Alphas….
When Kate asked me if I’d be interested in talking about alpha heroes on her blog I was momentarily stunned. Me? Alphas? But the moment passed quickly.
If you had asked me two years ago when I sold to Harlequin Romance if I could write an alpha hero, I would have laughed. I would have said, “I don’t do alphas.” You see, I was labouring under the common misapprehension that alpha = hard, brutish man. And my guys just aren’t that way.
Well thank goodness I’ve been educated. Or have a deeper understanding. Because it is not brutish, nasty behaviour that determines an alpha.
Of course there are shades of alphas, and different styles and tones of writing. My alphas will be nothing like Kate’s, and Kate’s will be different from Anne McAllister’s, and Anne’s will be different from Michelle Styles…you see where I’m going?
Kate said, in her e-mail, that my Jonas (The Soldier’s Homecoming) and Nate (Falling for Mr. Dark and Dangerous) were true alphas. After handing in 9 books for the Romance line and number 10 in the wings, I can see a few more coming your way as well. Dante Nicoletti, for example, and Noah Laramie for another.
What makes an alpha?
An alpha is a leader. He doesn’t wait for things to happen, he MAKES THINGS HAPPEN. Even if he makes a bad decision – he’ll be committed to it 100%. In Dark and Dangerous, Nate had to lie to the heroine. He hates dishonesty, but he does it because it is for her own protection….
Which brings us to another characteristic – an alpha is a protector. He can be as charming as the day is long, drive too fast, be the ultimate playboy – but when it comes to what is his, he will fight to the death to protect it. His heroine might fear the passion flaring between them, but she will never have to fear being hurt from the outside.
Alpha heroes are also aspirational. They are always looking forward to the next achievement or opportunity. They are successful because they are driven. It is not enough to rest on their laurels. And this doesn’t have to be financial gain either. It could be a cause they are dedicated to, or in the case of my Noah, he puts his energy into his recovery and rehabilitation. But they are forward thinkers. They are proactive.
Alphas might have that little bit of an edge that makes them seem sometimes hard or ruthless, but that is because they make decisions and stick to them. Alphas live life on their own terms. It makes them exciting, powerful personalities. One of the heroes I have thought a lot about lately is Darcy. When he says that his good opinion, once lost, is gone forever, that sounds cold and hard. But let’s face it – it’s also a challenge. Don’t we all love a man who’s a challenge – at least in our fiction? J And peeling back those layers to discover the heart of the man beneath is exciting. Alphas don’t like to show their vulnerabilities, which is why when they finally do reveal their “scars” to the heroine, it has such an impact. Those vulnerabilities might simply be their feelings for the heroine, or they can be something more entirely. In the last book I handed in, there is a scene where my hero is literally laid bare before the heroine. It is about as low as he can go. And her reaction changes everything.
My Romance heroes might be different from what many call “The Presents Hero”, but they’re incredibly fun to write…and those that have the greatest alpha characteristics are also the heroes I fall in love with the most!
My next book is Hired: The Italian’s Bride (June 09). Luca is definitely a playboy type – but he is also an achiever. Is he an alpha? Yes. Is he ruthless? Never. He is incredibly gentle, but he is the strong protector that Mari needs. It is that strength combined with his gentleness that makes it possible for Mari to start living again.
You can check out all the posts here. I think there are something like twenty-two!
Donna
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011
www.donnaalward.com
Rosie
Rosie, my apologies for taking so long to get back to you.
In asking how Modern heroes differ from Romance heroes, you are *almost* asking how Modern is different from Romance. Maybe that's because in both lines character is key.
Some of the differences are in intensity. Both Romance and Modern *are* intense but of a different nature.
Modern tends to be characterized (and populated) with tycoons, billionaires, and aristocracy. Some of it is entitled wealth and often it is a poor boy made good and now incredibly wealthy and powerful.
The power of the hero - both in the practical business world and in personality - is more subtle in Romance, or at least can be. You might still have a millionaire, a tycoon, a self-made man, but they are often of a different sort. There's a lot more room for entrepreneurs rather than CEOs. If you read a cross section from each line, you'll see what I mean.
I also am going to post again in a moment as Kate Walker held an alpha hero event on her blog and I am going to post my bit that I did etc. Back in 2 secs!
Donna
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011
www.donnaalward.com
The Romance Hero
How is the Romance hero different to the Modern/Presents hero?
Do I understand correctly that there is more scope for humour in a Romance than in a Modern/Present?
If the answer is simply in another thread, then do just redirect me - I'm not finding my way around very well....
Jennie Adams
Jennie Adams did a hero with cancer (though he was recovering) in her book To Love and To Cherish.
Donna
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, Cherish UK March 2011
A FAMILY FOR THE RUGGED RANCHER, Cherish UK June 2011
HOW A COWBOY STOLE HER HEART, Cherish UK October 2011
www.donnaalward.com
Hello
I've just discovered this thread. It suddenly popped up on my screen never having appeared before. I am thrilled. Am I too late to jump in with the serious illness thing? Only I have read literally thousands of M&B and know there have been many with serious illness involved. They tear at your heart strings and give you a good cry before everything in the world goes rosy again. Fabulous M&B. As far as titles is concerned, DUH.
Hope this thread doesn't disappear into the ether again.
Thanks
Thanks Liz for your comments. It is upbeat and it definately has a happy ending but the breast cancer although does have some focus is not the foundation of the story, it also highlights past conflict that they have swept under the carpet for several years. Thanks again...I'm off to write some more.
Penny x
Cancer
Penny, I don't see why that wouldn't fly with Romance. It's a reality that many women live through and the positive message of being loved through the worst that can happen to you is a very powerful one.
If you're burning to write it I'd say go ahead -- there are lots of opportunities for strong internal conflict with both H and h, but be careful about using it as a "message", remember to keep the ending upbeat and positive. And most of all remember that it's a romance. Good luck!
Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
Serious illness - is it right for romance?
Hi Ladies!
I'm hoping to target the Romance line with my current WIP but am after some advice. My Heroine has breast cancer and I'm not sure if it's the 'done' thing. I've scoured my bookshelves to find a romance with a serious illness and can't find one (hmm lighbulb moment - maybe that's answering my question) Maybe she just needs to have an accident but it has to be serious enough for the hero to fly half way around the world to her. Is an editor going to look at it with a serious illness or do I need to rethink?
Penny
Stretching the wings...
I do think it's important for all writers not to get bogged down in one mindset. It's especially important when you're still feeling your writing feet. Just the act of writing something different will give you new perspective, new ideas, bring you back to the first love refreshed and excited.
Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
Stretching the wings...
I do think it's important for all writers not to get bogged down in one mindset. It's especially important when you're still feeling your writing feet. Just the act of writing something different will give you new perspective, new ideas, bring you back to the first love refreshed and excited.
Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
No inhibitions
I think Chris' idea of trying something different because one can write freely without expectations and inhibitions is a good one!
Because we all deserve a happy ending!
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but wonder if because I
but wonder if because I don’t feel I’m a ‘natural’ Modern, I might be
able to write with a bit more dash & less inhibitions.
I'm targetting Romance, but still very tempted to enter the competition. I don't have a Modern voice either but I'm hoping that one will appear once I start writing!
Pink or Blue?
One of my writer friends who has been targetting Romance is entering, Chris. She was originally aiming at Presents/Modern, but had feedback from the Instant Seduction comp suggesting her voice fitted Romance better.
As she's presently waiting to hear back on a requested Full that's been with Romance for about 6 months, she's going to try a change of pace again for the new contest.
I waver back and forth, not sure if my voice fits Romance or Modern Heat best! My bookshelf is an equal mix of pink and blue.
I'm certainly giving the comp a try. I entered Instant Seduction last year, but not Feel the Heat, just had too much else going on at the time and writing had to take a back seat.
This year is different, and making time for writing has been a key priority!
I was going to be "good" and finish editing the very messy first draft of my last story, but all the talk about the comp has a new story idea bubbling up. I think I'm going to stop resisting this particular temptation and start work on this new one. I know there are issues with the conflict in the current story, so it may be all the better to leave it sit for a while and come back to it.
Well, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!
How about you?
Because we all deserve a happy ending!
http://waitingforthecall.wordpress.com/
http://sevensassysisters.com
November Modern competition
Just wondering if any would-be ‘pink’ (Romance) writers like me are thinking of entering the November Modern competition for the heck of it?
Because I’m targeting Romance, I’m horribly perfectionist over my partial – but wonder if because I don’t feel I’m a ‘natural’ Modern, I might be able to write with a bit more dash & less inhibitions.
Any comments, any Romance people?
Chris
Heck, the first time I saw
Heck, the first time I saw my name listed under the title of a personal essay published in a magazine I was thrilled. LOL, I don't think it would matter to me if my offspring published something in a totally different genre--it is still something to be thrilled about. Congrats to your son.
Son's book
It's non fic, Nancy. A heavyweight treatise on IT security being published by Wiley. And yes, totally thrilled to bits!
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
and finally taking my new
How exciting for you and for your son! Thanks for your comments about writing a place you know so well. Three different responses to my question.
Nancy
Writing a place I used to live is lovely. I walk around the streets in my head, feel the grass, "see" it.
My "village" of Upper Haughton, is a place I know really well and writing about it just takes me back to the lovely times I had there, watching the cricket, having a glass of something cheering in the village pub afterwards, with my family and then with the dh and finally taking my new born for walk around it in his pram. (His first book is being published this year!)
Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
Suman
Hi Suman
Always great to meet a fan of HMB "Romance"
Sorry to have been so long to respond. Troubles with my connection and a very busy week.
You'll find loads of stuff about writing for Romance on the authors' individual websites -- I've got one about "beginnings" but if you look around you'll find tons of stuff. There are also some articles on the Harlequin Romance Authors Blog at http://harlequinromanceauthors.blogspot.com -- plus links to the all the authors.
If you have any specific questions, I'm sure you'll get plenty of help here, too.
Good luck!
Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
hey
hello everyone,
I have been a fan of romance as long as i remember. I love reading them and now i am planning to write one. So i need your help. What are the basic things one should keep in mind while writing romance and also if submissions are possible online? please give tips.
Thanks.
Nancy, FWIW, I think the
Nancy, FWIW, I think the better you know a place, the harder it is to write about it. I've led quite a nomadic existence, and find that anywhere between 5 - 10 years is required before I can really get to grips creatively with a place where I've lived. Before that, things feel muddled up with the details of my real life there.
With holiday spots you've visited, maybe even several times, it's much easier to approach a place in a 'new slate' way and make it convincing, though of course it's harder then to give the reader a powerful and authentic sense of that setting.
http://janewritesromance.blogspot.com
http://charlottelamb.blogspot.com (Tribute site)
Babies on the cover
Glad to hear that, Janet!
DIYing finished. Free to write uninterrupted this week -- suddenly wielding the sandpaper doesn't seem quite so bad...
Have a good week everyone
Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
A baby in a storm. I love
A baby in a storm. I love stories with babies in. Especially when they're included on the cover --that has twice the pull.
New places :-)
This one's set in the Kimberley region, Nancy - deep, isolated Outback, in the Wet season too. I'm having fun with it, all right. Talk about enforced intimacy - with a baby in a storm...
Have a good night, all
Melissa
Melissa James, Harlequin Romance
THE REBEL KING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, April 2009
HIS PRINCESS IN THE MAKING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, June 2009
HIS HOUSEKEEPER BRIDE, October 2009
Interesting point. Does
Interesting point. Does writing about a place you used to live make you homesick, or do you write about it because you miss it? Whether it is the next book,
or several books away, I'm psyched. It gives this woman a chance to visit a place I've never been.
Nancy :-)))
Thanks for the warm welcome, Nancy! Um - for you the Outback book is 2 books ahead - next one is set in Sydney and, like Princess, begins with the hardest point in the hero's life. The book after that is the Outback book, and I'm so glad to be back in my milieu - I adore the Outback and really miss it now I live in Europe. I'll probably do more books set around the world, but I'd like to write about home for a while. Write out the homesickness? Or hey, maybe that's why I am homesick! I'm writing about it...
Melissa
Melissa James, Harlequin Romance
THE REBEL KING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, April 2009
HIS PRINCESS IN THE MAKING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, June 2009
HIS HOUSEKEEPER BRIDE, October 2009
Waving at Jane!
Hi Jane, great to see you here!
Best, Liz
Her Desert Dream - December 2009
http://lizfielding.blogspot.com
http://www.lizfielding.com
Melissa, you made it! (Nancy
Melissa, you made it! (Nancy is jumping up and down in a totally unbecoming way for a woman in her 50s--LOL, inside I still feel like a teenager.)
So your next book is an Outback book. I'm psyched.
Hi Liz, great to see you
Hi Liz, great to see you here!
Here's hoping the internet gremlins clear up soon or ship out. I've had 'em too. Teething problems, I think.
I love Saturdays.
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Thanks!
Thanks so much to Gemma and Nancy for their lovely reviews on my rebel Charlie. So glad you liked the book!
Melissa
Melissa James, Harlequin Romance
THE REBEL KING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, April 2009
HIS PRINCESS IN THE MAKING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, June 2009
HIS HOUSEKEEPER BRIDE, October 2009
Hi
Hi, I've finally found my way here thanks to Nancy. I look forward to meeting you all and chatting now and then - more then than now, unfortunately, as I have a book due in 4 weeks - the first of an exciting new Outback series. More details soon!
Melissa
Melissa James, Harlequin Romance
THE REBEL KING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, April 2009
HIS PRINCESS IN THE MAKING, SUDDENLY ROYAL, June 2009
HIS HOUSEKEEPER BRIDE, October 2009
Fiona
I finally got around to reading grace's story and have to say that I really enjoyed it :) Although it did make me want to eat cake for a few days which isn't great for the old diet hehe